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vov35
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what is the active ingredient in vegan soap instead of glycerides?
or is there a way to get them out of plants...

...glycerin is turned to NG is turned to dynamite... really how will we blow stuff up with no glycerin...
oh, well... on to the cotton to make smokeless powder!

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UnMeilleurReve
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Which acid do you use for that again vov?
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http://www.essortment.com/all/howtomakesoap_rasf.htm  TA-da!!
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UnMeilleurReve
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Lye, coconut oil, olive oil, vegetable shortening, and cocoa butter might be a bit hard to get ahold of.

And aren't lye soaps horrid for you?
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Hmmmm....yeah, lye is harsh on the skin...Unfortunately, there are practically zero alternatives to lye.  One of the bad parts of soapmaking I suppose.
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vov35
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or we could use soap made from animal fats, your choice...

and its nitric acid... lol

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Thought so, but I wasn't sure.

And how does one make lye? I thought it came from animal fats, too.
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vov35
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Off to wikipedia I go...

In modern day, lye is commercially manufactured using a membrane cell method, which is an improvement from the previous diaphragm cell methods of Castner-Kellner, Gibbs, and Nelson.


Safety

Both solid dry lye and lye solutions are corrosive and will degrade organic tissue.



and another random quote to mention how bad lye is...

and household uses, such as oven cleaner and drain opener.  (they would normally use 97+ %  H2SO4 for drain opener)

Lye is being considered for dissolving the tissue of deceased human bodies as an environmentally-friendly alternative to cremation.



thanks guys, but i don't want to be dissolved...



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