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glorfon
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6-8 acres of buildings? How? All of the buildings we've listed even with the circular lay out would fit into just over an acre.
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Space for up to (or beyond) 25 houses, a large enough community building to hold everyone, greenhouses, bathhouses, exercise area/building, etc.

I think there are enough buildings being planned to justify 6-8 acres.

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"Amaranth seeds are unusually high in protein for a non-legume, running around 14 to 16% protein. Even better, the protein is well balanced in amino acids, and is high in lysine, an amino acid most grains are deficient in (legumes also have high lysine)." Also high in fiber and other good stuff. This is my new supplement for a veggie diet, Smile

Anywho, 1000 looks like the right amount.

Also, if we do the ridiculously large houses, 20x40 times 6 with 4 in a house and one house a total common area and plenty of extra room gives us 20 people with 10 extra rooms and no roomies. Not including the excess for the curve and the gaps between houses, and not including the padding on and to either side of a given house, that's 12,240 sq ft. An acre, as per google, is 43,560 sq ft. If we built in a row, we could fit 3.5 housing complexes of this sort on an acre. I think we'll be fine.

Also, think in terms of sq ft. a single story 20x40 is only 800 sq. ft. 2 stories give us 1600 sq. ft, which is a decent sized house. Divide each floor into 4 square or rectangular rooms and forget about hallways and stairs, and you get 200 sq. ft per room. Say you subtract 200 sq. ft for halls, walls, and stairs, and that gives you 600 usable sq ft per floor, divided up between 4 rooms, gives you 150 sq. ft. per room. Those rooms could be 10x15, which is probably comfy. 8 10x15 rooms with 4 rooms as extra for storage, living room, study, workspace, you name it. And, if you keep the houses in right angles, it's all very simple to build, so long as the floors are on parallel plans.
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ok, new question, what diameter will our curve/circle thing be?

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I like a wiiiide radius for the actual curvature of the structure, personally. Not too wide, but so that we can have a semi-uniform amount of light throughout.
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which would be how much if the houses are turned with teh 40foot side facing south?

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It has been a LONG time since I've done this. How wide of a diameter do we need if we're going to have 6 40 ft segments that all fit within a semicircle and have both ends of the segments not intersecting, minimum. Expand that to rectangles, and how much do we need? Then what is the absolute minimum if the rectangles intersect at 1 point.

That's one HELL of a calc problem.
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time for a totally random estimate... 6 homes... 185 feet with a 10-15 foot gap between them...

this is just a random guess... prolly more like 150 if you do the math but whatever

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this stuff takes a while to grow. it seems like we would all move there and start growing all this. but then after a hard days work we have nothing to eat because nothing is grown yet. plus crop rotation is also another thing to consider. you have to find out how each plant reacts with the soil, whether it takes nutrients away or if it gives them back.
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We'll want to stockpile food (and jars for preserving foods) before we do everything, and we'll want to have more than enough to get us through the first growing season, right?

Anybody else see my 1/3rd acre housing land devision math? My friend was pretty impressive just then, lol. I need to take another math class...


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