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UnMeilleurReve
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OH MY GOD.

AMARANTH!

My parents are growing some and I had it today for dinner at their place. It was TASTY.

It reminds me of spinach, but it's less slimy when cooked and has less discoloration.

It's also red, has TONS of seed, grows 4-5 feet tall and is very lush, grows well in clusters, is damned near impossible to over-water (we tried once: it just got taller!!!), and is pretty. It also has MASSIVE nutritional value, is easy to uproot if it gets somewhere you don't want it, and has TONS of iron (which most women and veggies are severely deficient of).

Could we please, please, please devote an acre or half an acre to this stuff?
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Gee I don't know where we can squeeze in another half acre of garden Razz   I was going to use the extra 10 acres to build my empirial palace. Laughing

We can basically grow as much of what ever we want as long as we make sure to grow enough staples that we won't starve.
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LeReveur wrote:
(which most women and veggies are severely deficient of).

YAY FOR EATING WOMEN!

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Amaranth is a staple. I think it was the Iroquois that used it as their staple until the US and a drought came along...

I was suggesting amaranth as a staple crop Smile
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It had better be as tasty as you say it is.
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Beats the hell out of spinach...
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Hey ! I love spinach with cream.... yumm
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spinach make mah hed asplode.
ok, its not that bad when its baked into something, but thats the only way i eat it.

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Oh my god, we need milk.... Spinakopita!
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OK.  I think that before we go further into deciding how many people we can support, we should actually work out the numbers.

We have 26 acres.  Are there any rivers, streams, etc. that would reduce that amount?  As in: any non-arable land?

For non-food bearing land, we should have probably 6-8 acres for housing/building/etc area, to allow for spacing as well as possible expansion.

We'll probably want up to 6 acres for livestock (I know, it may seem like a lot, but if anything we can divide it up into a couple of pastures and rotate the stock through them).  That's almost a quarter of our land.  This is assuming, of course, that these are not animals for eating.  If we were doing that...we'd need much more land.

So, now we have roughly 12 (allowing for space, padding, etc) acres for food.  Let's break it down:

1 acre for apples.  It may be a lot of apples, but we can sell any extras locally, make jams, etc.
1 acre for cherries (sweet or tart).  Can be dried for storage.
1 acre for amaranth.  I've never had the stuff, but LeReveur seems to love it.
2 acres for potatoes.  Again, extras can be sold or stored.
.5 acres for carrots
.5 acres for bell peppers
.5 acres for broccoli
.5 acres for tomatoes
2 acres sweet cord.  Eating, selling, storing, etc.
1 acre milling corn.  Again, eating, selling, storing, etc.
2 acres for wheat.  We'll probably need the most of this.

Ok.  So far it totals (hey, look at that!) 12 acres.  Now, supposedly, 10 people will eat around 30,000 lbs of food per year, which comes down to about 7-8 pounds per day.

Here is what these acreages should yield per year, in lbs:

Apples:               25,400
Cherries:              6,660
Amaranth:          ~1,000 (not sure on this one)
Potatoes:            30,800
Carrots:               9,900
Bell peppers:        3,450
Broccoli:               3,650
Tomatoes:            5,500
Sweet cord:        12,400
Milling corn:          6,200
Wheat (durum):   12,600

Total:  117,560 lbs per year (approximately, of course).

That's a lot of food.  Supposedly, that'll support just under 40 people, per year.  However, a lot of this can be stored or sold.  Also, these crop yields are averages, which means that some years won't yield as much.

So, due to these very approximate calculations, I would recommend supporting, at a max, 25 people.  This is also because when we increase people, we have to increase living space, and that'll decrease crop space, etc.



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