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glorfon
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according to wikipedia Iowa rarely gets below zero in the winter.  As a Minnesotan I think this is a gentle winter.  However I know we can't grow year round.  So what will we do for food in the winter?  We can make fruit into jam.  We can grind up corn into corn meal and wheat into flour to make bread.(oh man I love cornbread) And there's the possibility of green houses. Any other ideas?
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Jams, preserves, meals, cans, jars, dried food, greenhouses, etc.


Also, the deeper you get the colder it gets. The underground makes a really good natural refridgerator. There are a lot of things to do for food in the winter if you grow a surplus and preserve it.
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I thought it got hotter?

Any way according to the history channel once you get below 6 feet there is a constant temperature.  So we can live comfortably underground during the winter.

As far as keeping food cold.  If you're right then we're set.  If I'm right then we can encase the food in snow from outside during the winter.

Do people know anything about smoking meat to preserve it?
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glorfon wrote:
I thought it got hotter?

thats VERY far down. once you begin entering the more radioactive regions, there is indeed a higher temprature.
that is deeper than you can dig under normal circumstances though.
a hell of a lot deeper.

glorfon wrote:

Any way according to the history channel once you get below 6 feet there is a constant temperature.  So we can live comfortably underground during the winter.


yeah, its constant 13 degrees. does that sound comfartable?
i thought not.
we actually need heaters.
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If you set up the right kind of insulation, you can create slightly-underground but still touching air houses with relatively stable temperatures year-round. Multi-layer insulation (keep the outside out, the inside in, and the in-between as buffers).

13 degrees is great for food storage though!

And we should also look into non-carbon monoxide, non-smoke, effective ways of heating. I'm really liking Fresnel lenses right now.

We could use them for cooking, smelting, forging, burning, heating, and electricity (via steam?).
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I know it's not thirteen! I've been in caves and mines and it's usually 50-60.  If it were 13 there would be permafrost which having dug that deep before I know there isn't.
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13 c

forgot to mention that. but it is cold....
room temp in c is 23
and freezing is 0, so i guess you are about right.
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Oh, 13 C.  That's not comfortable admittedly but it would only require minimal heating.
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yeah, sorry about the confusion, ill label my units next time!
I love the metric system. i mean really:
1g = 1ml water = 1cc
1000g = 1 kg
1000kg = 1 ton!

great isn't it?
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Yeah, but 46.6 degrees Celsius doesn't quite convey the severity of temperature that 116 degrees Fahrenheit does.


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