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UnMeilleurReve
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Staple foods supply a good base for any recipe, and starches provide calories. If we plan on doing our own work, we probably need calories to fuel us. I'm going to call everything else that isn't a fruit a "filler" (excluding herbs and spices), meaning tomatoes, lettuce, carrots, peppers, or anything else. Fruits are something I know little to nothing about growing or surviving off of (in fact, I don't really eat any fruit... maybe I should start...).

Corn and wheat provide as grains, making breads, meals, and recipes more lively. Potatoes are a starch, and a high calorie starch at that. As these are what will probably end up providing most of our sustenance and act as the base ingredients for many, many recipes, we should probably devote a large portion of our acreage to growing these things. We can set aside an acre or two for the fillers so that our recipes have something to them and our meals don't seem impoverished and tasteless.

So, here's what we should discuss in this thread. How much acreage do we devote to each crop, how deep do the roots grow, what are the best ways to harvest each food, how much water and sunlight do they need, and how far apart from other foods should they be kept. Also, what pests are attracted to each and what is the least harmful way (to our health, probably organic) and most efficient/cheap way to combat pests.

The areas we need such information in are 1)staples/starches, 2)fruits, and 3)fillers.

We also need to decide what fruits and what fillers we will grow, as we know for sure corn, potatoes, and wheat are going to be our staple crops.

So, thoughts and information?
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glorfon
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I was already kind of discussing this in the what we know thread should I move some of that information here?

Anyway this is what I was thinking but it's just a general idea we need to know yeild and spacing before we can say anything for sure.
Based on 26 acres
-5 acres wheat
-5 acres milling corn
-4 acres potatoes
-4 acres beans (for protein)
-2 acres sweat corn
-5 acres of green houses and gardens for fruit and fillers
-1 acre of houses and underground building.
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UnMeilleurReve
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I started this thread specifically for the stuff you presented in the know thread so that we now have a thread for it specifically. Go ahead and bring it here if it isn't trouble.
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glorfon
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Here's the vegetable list that I had made.
-corn(sweat corn and milling corn)
-wheat
-potatoes
-strawberries
-blue berries
-broccoli
-spinach
-asparagus
-Black Beans
-green beans
-carrots
-radishes
-various peppers
-zucchini(I hate zucchini but it yields a TON of food)
-cucumbers
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UnMeilleurReve
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Foods suggested:
-corn(sweat corn and milling corn)
-wheat
-potatoes
-strawberries
-blue berries
-broccoli
-spinach
-asparagus
-Black Beans
-green beans
-carrots
-radishes
-various peppers (including jalepeno and cayenne)
-zucchini(I hate zucchini but it yields a TON of food)
-cucumbers
-garbanzo beans
-stevia
-blackberries


Foods suggested against:








We'll populate the list and move it to a vote? Is that okay with everybody, does anybody object?


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I think that it is a bit too much land spent on potatoes, as seeing by some one on this forums computations it would take .03 acres per person per year to provide 1/3 of their food. ( in potatoes)

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glorfon
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vov35 wrote:
I think that it is a bit too much land spent on potatoes, as seeing by some one on this forums computations it would take .03 acres per person per year to provide 1/3 of their food. ( in potatoes)


you my friend underestimate my friend underestimate my potato eating potential.  Where can I find those calculation I have my doubt about them but if they're right... that's awesome.
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Selkie
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I, too, eat a great deal of potatoes. And everything else...which is why I'll be having to force myself to eat my fair share. XD

I suggest instead of peppers, maybe jalepenos? Very Happy It would be great if we could have an easy to manage, small herb garden near the housing area...with spices and flavoring galore!

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Nevermind, apparently peppers are what's in Tabasco.

I goofed.  Embarassed

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Well I'm finally getting around to researching the nutritional content of the vegetables on the list. (Yeah, I'd been procrastinating) how in depth should I be?  Currently I'm just recording the serving size, protein, carbs, fat, fiber and calories.


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