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glorfon
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I'll warn you all now that section this awkward and so I want you to take this seriously.

Ok, I don't know much about this topic so I'm relying on you tough enough to rock.  What do we do about menstration? Obviously I"m not obosed to just buying tampons.  But since we're trying to be self sufficient I was wondering if there was any alternatives.
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tuffenoughtorock
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Well.  The easiest solution would be a hysterectomy Razz ...just kidding.  But on a serious note, there is a company called Wemoon that makes natural, reusable feminine products that are organic (yay!), and made from cotton cloth.  It's one of those things where you buy them in bulk, wash and reuse.  They can be reused several times. Or we can do a "donation system" where we get our products from family and friends.  I can't really see us being 100% self-sufficient when it comes to this issue, for health and sanitary purposes.
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glorfon
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Ok, we can look into wemoon.  And I agree with you I don't expect up to be 100% self sufficient and this is one of the exceptions i would definitely make.
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vov35
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the only problem with women. lol
thats probably why they didn't have women in the military etc.
thats not supposed to be insulting, just a realization

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I feel like, or worry that, there might be something inherently somewhat misogynistic about men discussing/deciding this. By which I don't really mean that men shouldn't be talking about it, but just that I think it ultimately needs to be decided mostly by the women, and not even really by the women as a group, but by the women as individuals, as the individuals that that decisions effects.

I think 100% self-sustainability doesn't make sense. But that might just represent a point on which I drastically disagree with some premise of this whole experiment.

Some of my friends swear by mentrual cups: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup

Ultimately, I think this is a pretty small issure that would be worked out pretty fluidly.
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UnMeilleurReve
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I also feel like it can be a small decision. However, dc, you bring up another point that I think we should look into. It slightly surfaced in the introductions thread, as well.

Personally, though I am not female and I don't have to worry about issues such as menstruation, I do feel as if we can discuss this with some ease. We do, so far, have 1 woman in here, as well, who has given input into this topic. Ultimately, no matter who it is, the person themselves has the right to decided what exactly they are going to do in regards to their body. But thinking that we would be misogynistic if we as men tried to discuss this is a disservice to ourselves. In fact, I think by discussing it (especially with the input of women!) we are doing ourselves a favor by becoming more educated and dissolving the separation that exists between men and women (most of which is, in fact, very arbitrary).

Of course, when trying to talk about anything regarding the opposite sex, especially when female is the opposite, things can get a bit touchy, so it's important to be sensitive to how other people feel about it and the ways in which they respond so as to be totally respectful while *not* invalidating the discussion.

Basically, all I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't worry so much about being misogynistic. If you're not a dominating, masculine white male, chances are you've been marginalized to some extent as well. We just need to be sensitive, and probably just as radical in our thinking.



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Oh, and my female family members and several friends of mine swear by menstrual cups, too. And the over-emphasis on sustainability and self-sufficiency strikes home very well on this subject, I think, as it is an issue of necessity. However, if we have reusable hygiene products we reduce how much waste we produce and significantly reduce how much we need to spend on necessities. Each woman should make her own decision as to what she wants to do, but having some idea what's out there is useful nonetheless.

I think we need some sort of philosophical manifesto discussion so we know how we want to approach this, as well. Should we put strong emphasis on sustainability or simply consider it in passing? What stance are we going to take on societal constructs like gender and sexuality? What do we want to do once we've gotten onto our own feet? What sort of involvement do we want to have with our direct community, the radical left, and the national/global community? Do we want to become directly involved with the formation and sustaining of other communes?

I'm starting another thread on this right now.
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vov35
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LeReveur wrote:

Of course, when trying to talk about anything regarding the opposite sex, especially when female is the opposite,

that could already be accepted as insulting  Razz  of course i know what you mean though.

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tuffenoughtorock
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dcopulsky wrote:
I feel like, or worry that, there might be something inherently somewhat misogynistic about men discussing/deciding this. By which I don't really mean that men shouldn't be talking about it, but just that I think it ultimately needs to be decided mostly by the women, and not even really by the women as a group, but by the women as individuals, as the individuals that that decisions effects.

I think 100% self-sustainability doesn't make sense. But that might just represent a point on which I drastically disagree with some premise of this whole experiment.

Some of my friends swear by mentrual cups: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup

Ultimately, I think this is a pretty small issure that would be worked out pretty fluidly.



Being the only female on the board at the moment, I don't find that anyone has crossed the line discussing this or has been misogynistic.  I think we can all agree that addressing these issues will be beneficial for everyone and work out any awkwardness that may occur (I mean, if we all have to live together, we might as well be comfortable with one another).  It has also been established that it is up to each woman to decide what she wants to use in regards to her own personal hygiene, menstruation and whatnot.  

But I have no problems answering any questions that any of you may have regarding "female issues."
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Selkie
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Oh goodness, this is a funny thread...I had to take a few deep breaths to stop laughing Razz

Here's my suggestion, if you can't use that Meeno stuff (and those menstrual cups freak me out, to be honest I can't even use tampons, they just creep me out and...urk! *shudders*) just use toilet paper or some kind of really cheap stuff. It's cheap enough, and uses less paper than pads. Scrap cloth might also work if you really want to get cheap.

Also, I'm fine with guys participating in the discussion of this. It would be best for the community if all of the women used the same method because then it would be cheaper and there would be more available in case one girl needs more than usual. I'm fine with whatever the group decision is, though if it involves any tampons or menstrual caps I'm probably going to just try to brave it Razz

I should point out and warn you all, though, that when women live together for a bit, their cycles tend to line up and all become the same. Which can be problematic--menstruation brings on a lot of physical and emotional problems and in my experience makes you less energetic, a bit grumpy, makes it hard to move, and just generally drains you.

This will have to be dealt with. As a woman I suggest that once all of the women start menstruating at the same time, during that time, for about a week, the men step up and make sure that the women are comfortable and that they are given a chance to rest, and that since they will be working slower, step up and take care of the extra workload. In repayment, the women can step up after the week and give the men a break...or /something/ like that. The women would just love it and I know personally when I'm menstruating work becomes very hard and I feel very grateful to those who make it easier for me, and help them out.

Sorry, rambling. But those are my thoughts. *cough*

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glorfon
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I'd be more than willing to step up and take on the work load for women while their mensturating.


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