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Advocacy, Sanctuary, and 501c(3) status

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UnMeilleurReve
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It was my intent for this to be open to any who needed it, and possibly offering training and helping create outside reproductions that cater to specific other subcultures.

Additionally, this would be outstanding in an urban environment but just as useful if it were, say, in a rural environment with a nearby urban environment. That way the people seeking sanctuary could *really* get away. Transportation costs would be our biggest consideration in this scenario.
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Urban areas tend to be surrounded by suburbs do they not? then again, at my present location, you'd need to go 1/4 mile west to be "rural" and yet baltimore is... 15 miles east? That's a little over an hour biking.

.... we should make/join a bike coop

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Ideally we could have both an urban base, populated by three to four pairs of advocates at a time, as well as having a rural safehouse/place-thing where the majority of the people involved would dwell.

So...starting with a rural commune, gradually switching to advocacy, starting a rural commune, gradually integrating into advocacy, and on from there?

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Zeerahks wrote:

So...starting with a rural commune, gradually switching to advocacy, starting a rural commune, gradually integrating into advocacy, and on from there?

Starting with urban you mean?

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Hehe, yeah.

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So this 501c(3)....

What does it require on our end and what advantages does it give us?

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Requires documentation of intended purpose for the organization or "non-profit incorporation", incorporation indicating the kind that makes you a recognized entity of your respective state(s). Documentation of the sources for your funding and where your funding is spent.

Benefits include being totally tax-free. If the food we grow, the houses we build, the land we acquire, and the materials we acquire and use are all part of our non-profit corporation, then they are all tax-free. Additionally, if you provide documentation when you buy things that it is for your 501(c)(3), you get tax off of that, as well.

It does require us to know what we want to do and keep track of our resources and where they go, but in the long run, a little extra work in order to not have to pay the corpgov? Worth it.
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so.... How are we going to explain in legal paperwork that the roof over our heads is in fact a component of our nonprofit organization?

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I'm planning on discussing that with a lawyer, or several, but the general gist is that the roof over our heads is justified by the notion that we're like... camp counselors. Our homes and our subsistence are payment "in kind", and the building of our homes and the growing of our crops is part of the work that we do in order to obtain that payment "in kind." I'm definitely sketchy on the details, and I'm not certain what sort of oversight will be levied on us if we do it, but there you have it.

As for when we're urban as opposed to rural? I'm not entirely certain.
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Now I realize I'm on vicodin(yes I have a goddamn prescription) and all, but that seems difficult to push... I hope we won't need to gather resources for a bribe or anything.



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