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glorfon
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From what I've been learning in environmental science, WE"RE DOOMED.  Well, actually we're not everyone else is.  Earth will run out of arable land within 100 years but even before that happens the loss of farmland will induce chaos.  By the 2035 earth will have about half the farmland it had in 1985 but way more people than it did then or now.  This is going to mean food shortages bad enough to effect America.  It's no exaggeration to expect massive starvation and international conflicts to arise from this.  Food shortages will leave a large part of the world malnourished and susceptible to disease.  And this is in our lifetime our children and grandchildren will be born into even worse conditions.

Except for that there will be a few places left with healthy soil.  Populus Terra for example.  My hope is that people will start to wake up to the destruction of the world and start to return to more sustainable life styles, and we'll be leading the way!

And if they don't wake up we'll still get new members.  I like to imaging that eighty years from now future generation of Populus Terrans will be taking in refugees from a the tattered remains of the old civilization and working to restore healthy soil and ecosystems to the world.
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vov35
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we may need to rethink a heavily defended perimiter, cuz i am sure the surrounding people will try to steal land first, because people don't have brains anymore...

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Selkie
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Yea, it's scary. Here's some things that may interest you guys related to food and soil:

   *  As little as 40 years of farmable soil remain globally.
   * For each pound of food eaten in the United States, approximately 6 pounds of soil are lost to wind and water erosion, resulting from agricultural practices.
   * Twelve pounds of farmable soil are similarly lost in developing countries, with 18 pounds of farmable soil lost in China for every pound of food eaten.
   * Approximately 213,000 people are added to the planet daily, requiring about 34,000 more farmable acres each day to feed them—acreage which does not exist.
   * Due to all of these factors, by 2014 only about 64% of the world’s population is likely to have an adequate diet.


http://www.growbiointensive.org/grow_soil.html

(Reading from the above link, we should definitely look into it!)

And a neat little video on how a suburban family is able to grow up to 90% of their diet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCPEBM5ol0Q

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Selkie
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vov35 wrote:
we may need to rethink a heavily defended perimiter, cuz i am sure the surrounding people will try to steal land first, because people don't have brains anymore...


Well, I've said before that we need a big circle, as that seems to me easiest to defend. Not sure if that's what was decided to be implemented.

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vov35
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... well... i just realized that the technologies i was experimenting with for paintball would work for these purposes with slight modifications... like I've made some pretty high tech crap... laser trip mine for one.... and a HUD with a crosshair. next project is to get some servos and make an automated turret. meh its gonna be expensive. but if we think outside the box, I am sure we can keep ourselves safe.

when I said perimiter, I was thinking to have a solid fence around the property... I mean like chainlink with barbed wire, possibly electrified.

Why, because simply, if we have land to feed ourselves, and they are all fucking starving, they're gonna try to attack us for our food/land.

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Zeerahks
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Let's get settled first, then we can think about defenses if need be.  After all, we have at least 20 years.  Very Happy

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glorfon
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Selkie wrote:


(Reading from the above link, we should definitely look into it!)

And a neat little video on how a suburban family is able to grow up to 90% of their diet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCPEBM5ol0Q


Wow, that's inspiring.
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vov35
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damn, that is... and i am living on a 3/4 acre lot right now...

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glorfon
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However under further inspection what they're doing isn't really sustainable but it's a good step.
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UnMeilleurReve
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Wonder how an entire community could sustain itself? Like, 20 houses on 3/4 acre each. From my experience from the garden out back, different things ripen at different times and often we can't finish things before they go bad because we're eating outside of the house. And 1 butternut squash can feed me for 4 meals, if it grows big enough.


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