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glorfon
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http://www.motherearthnews.com/Gr...-Innovative-Insulated-Panels.aspx

Check it out!  These would make construction a lot faster.  Also they would save energy because they're be insulated.  What do you all think?
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I like the idea. now who sells them...

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"The incredible strength of SIPs is entirely dependent on the bond between the OSB and foam core. If the bond breaks down, then you’re in big trouble. In a stud-frame wall, water leakage around doors and windows will lead to rotten sheathing, but there’s still a wooden frame to provide structural support. Not so with SIPs; that’s why it’s important to make sure rain never seeps into the panels. A double layer of exterior weatherproofing is an idea worth considering."

If we build earth-bermed houses, this would be a problem. We *seriously* need to look into strong weather and waterproofing. I think brick might be a better construction choice: with the entire outside walls and roofs totally waterproofed with something.

"Damage from exterior water isn’t the only worry. There’s also the issue of internal condensation occurring along panel edges during very cold weather. If warm, moist indoor air is allowed to enter these cracks, it can condense into water, which can cause rot problems.

“The most important concern is the potential for moisture migration into or through the SIPs if they’re not properly sealed during installation,” Wilson says. “Sealing the panel joints and connections is critical, as has been shown by significant SIP home failures in Alaska.”"

Water, water, water... Damn the stuff! I mean, it's not like we need it to *live* or anything.

Have we considered the possibility of flooding?
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no, we haven't.  start a thread for it if you want

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LeReveur wrote:

Have we considered the possibility of flooding?


What level of flooding? Like Damn there's water in the basement or Damn there goes New Orleans.
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type a...

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Type A I don't think is too big of a threat because there is a small river a short ways from the land that water will hopefully drain to.
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If it doesn't overflow.

I think we need a contingency plan for that, lol.
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the odds of another "DAMN THERE GOES NEW ORLEANS" are pretty low in that area, aren't they?

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Better to have plans in places and it not to happen than for it to happen when we haven't planned for it.



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