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UnMeilleurReve

Waste

We've touched on feminine hygiene, toilets have been mentioned, compost is a reality, but what the hell to do with human, toxic (or similar), or bio waste? We haven't touched it!

So, let's talk about the nitty-gritty, dirty, undesirable, noxious part of waste and waste removal here.

What do we do about feces, and what else do we need to worry about? I'm assuming that we're going to want to go with a "absolute minimal-waste" policy, with the nature of the people in here.
Selkie

I think we're just going to have to use the sewer system, I can't think it would be possible to use any sort of alternative. :\
glorfon

Bury it.  
Or compost it, yes it can be composted it just takes a while. There's instructions here [ulr]http://www.velacreations.com/wastecompost.html[/url]
vov35

what happened to the waste-composting, water-heating greenhouse idea?
glorfon

Ooh, I'd forgotten about that, that was a good idea.
dcopulsky

Compost.
vov35

now that I think about it, we may not be able to handle all of our trash in a greenhouse, however waste-composting water heating seems like a desirable approach.
tuffenoughtorock

Compost all the way. I have a friend who composts using worms, and is a freakin' expert at it.  I'll ask her more about it.  It's very efficient.
UnMeilleurReve

Worm composting I don't think will be okay for human refuse.

However, we have a worm-compost bin at the college, and I'll be helping with it as well as the organic garden on campus, so I'll have some hands-on experience about it.
vov35

ummm... worm composting is used for what form of waste? shit or plant parts?
UnMeilleurReve

Plants, paper, etc. Can't use meat or you'll contaminate your crops and can't use shit cuz it attracts maggots and repels worms, I'm pretty sure.
tuffenoughtorock

No meat products whatsoever.  My friend (who is vegan) says meat products will kill the worms.  She recycles papers and plastics, but throws food leftovers and organic matter into the compost.
glorfon

Plus it's waste full throw out meat.  But what will we do with fish guts?
UnMeilleurReve

Don't know. There has to be something you can do, lol.
tuffenoughtorock

glorfon wrote:
Plus it's waste full throw out meat.  But what will we do with fish guts?


If you're going to eat fish, why not eat the whole damn thing?   Laughing
vov35

why, when you can launch the guts at the neighbors with a spudgun...

...shoot waste into neighboring property with aircannon - problem solved  Laughing
glorfon

Need I remind you I'm related to the neighbors.
vov35

... more pressure... NEXT neighbors...


but seriously that was a joke with tha cannon thing...


and how long will a big hole in teh ground last  us for shit storage?
FightTheGoodFight

why dont you dig an outhouse? its not hard to do. then like every year fill the hole and dig another. you could have a outhouse digging party. invite alot of people over give them food, and make digging an outhouse look like fun, so you dont have to do as much...

by using calcium oxide in the hole it is virtually odorless also! yay for non smelling outhouses
UnMeilleurReve

I'd worry about waste seepage into the water contaminating our groundwater supply if we don't do something to prevent it...
glorfon

according to vela creations humanure (as they called it) will decompose to the point that it is safe to uses as fertilizer it just takes two years.  So maybe we could have a separate poo pile.
vov35

in an airtigth building, or what?

farthest end of the land from livable areas?
glorfon

Well if we put it in the east end of the land the wind will blow the smell away from the rest of the commune.  Also I think that sawdust or something else could be used to absorb the scent.
FightTheGoodFight

calcium oxide literally eats bad smells. it absorbs carbon dioxide, which is good.
vov35

I keep thinking about calcium carbide when i see you type calcium oxide... that would be bad...
FightTheGoodFight

yea that would not be the best...
glorfon

Where would we get calcium oxide?
UnMeilleurReve

http://store.galladechem.com/shar...=1102&CS=gallade&All=True
vov35

on that note... i want some calcium carbide *cries*

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