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Zeerahks
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I think we can all agree that the general consensus in society is that sexual education is sorely lacking.  With the United States and United Kingdom having the largest teen pregnancy rates in the world, many people are asking, "What can we do?"  A lot of people think that be approaching sex openly and honestly we can lower the number of teens having unprotected sex and becoming pregnant (I'm using pregnant in the sense that a teen pregnancy implies that either a man or woman, or both, is going to become a parent).

I see this issue in two parts.  The first is that a great majority of the US and UK (the Christian influence), view teen sex as an (almost) unforgivable sin.  There's a great stigma on sexuality among teenagers that is sorely impeding our efforts to work with it.

The second part is the insanely huge stigma surrounding teen pregnancy.  The cloud encompassing the issue is so huge, many people can't even smell it.  That invisible idea, a belief that rests within every single person's mind, is that teen pregnancy is unequivocally wrong.  That in no instance can teen pregnancy be a perfectly acceptable, even good thing.  And we all accept this.  Without doubt, we receive this belief and act as though it were our own, when, in reality, it's an archaic holdover from a time when pregnancy among teens was at incredible highs (the Middle Ages / Christianity's birth).

Unfortunately for all parties involved, this is one of the least noticed remnants of medieval Christianity.  Why?  Probably because it is so closely tied to the issue of teen sexuality that people tend to focus more on that, when they are actually two very different issues.

You see, there is no reason for us to believe in any case that pregnancy among post-/pubescent people is wrong.  Puberty is there for a reason folks, not just as "the beginning of Temptation," etc.  In fact, I believe that, with the right ideas behind us, we can turn this entire thing on its head.

The first thing anyone has to do is to cast out the assumption that pregnancy can be a bad thing.  It might not be a very nice thing (two people with genetic disorders having a child may not be the best course of action), but no matter what the case, every parent deserves the unwavering support of his/her community, without exceptions.

The second part to this is for us (as a small, intentional community) to put into place, as it would be nigh impossible to effect in general society.  That is to place full responsibility (and expectations) on BOTH parents.  If two teens have a child, then they must be expected to care for, provide for, and raise the child.  If they are deemed unfit (with multiple occasions of proof, of course) then the community at large will adopt the role of immediate family (if we aren't already, of course!).  Unfortunately, in society at large it is incredibly easy for a teen father (or mother) to leave the child to the other person (and it happens way to often!).  If this can be prevented, many of the problems with (and common arguments against) teen pregnancy would fade away (things like problems supporting/feeding the child, which wouldn't really be a problem anyway).

The third part is more focused on the sexual education part of the issue.  Now, to be fair, we can't really have everyone just having children left and right.  Pretty soon we wouldn't be able to support everyone.  So, we have to do what sexual education programs in the US and UK should have done in the first place: approach the issue of sex openly and honestly.  And provide plenty of condoms and birth control.  Again, puberty is a good thing, and everything that comes with it (well, almost... Very Happy ).

Thoughts? (Sorry for such a long post!)

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Selkie
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While I think there does need to be a line drawn (at the very least at 13, 15 tops), I agree. Teens have sex drives. As long as the community is supportive and is making sure the teen is not being taken advantage of, I see no problem with teen sex. You'd be surprised how many people in high school had sex regularily, even with adults.

I personally think that in all cases if there are children (Will/Berior and I may have a child if this works out) the entire community should be involved in raising them.

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vov35
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* remains silent (being in high school and all) *

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Zeerahks
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High school doesn't mean jack, man.  You have an opinion, and you're entitled to make it.  If you don't want to say anything then don't.  But know that you can!

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vov35
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yes, but any statement made by me, is usually viewed as describing me too closely. probably not here tho.  It kind of irritates me when i hear about those before the junior year having sex, otherwise i don't give a shit.

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glorfon
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I can't compile my opinion into a clear statement right now.  But you should all read "Harmful to Minors: The Dangers of Protecting Children from Sex".  It's all in there.  I'll post some of the major points later.
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Selkie
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At the very least we need to never hide reality from kids, imo. I hope to raise my child, if I ever do have one, with no blindfolds and earplugs when it comes to life. Sex is not sinful (though I'm personally shy and a prude when it comes to it but idealogically support openness about the subject), it is a fact of life. Same with birth, death, etc. If teens grow up aware of reality, the dangers, the rewards, etc, they will be more likely, I think, to make an informed choice.

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vov35
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Yes. I also believe that information must be made open. But not only in this issue but everywhere. I am in general anti-censorship. People need to be informed to make good decisions.

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Selkie
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I want to smack parents who get all prudish and upset if I mention reality to their kids. Like my cousin who homeschools her 4 or 5 daughters and they have NO idea that there is any religion besides Christianity, any idea of the world, no idea there is anything but christian music and christian movies and are very very isolated. I mentioned the war to them once and I was kicked out of the house. XD

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glorfon
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That's really sad.  That kind of sheltering is just sick.


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