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glorfon
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Thanks to my wonderful environmental science teacher I've learned the evils of modern farming practices.  Apparently, the world will exhaust all of it's topsoil in the next century if modern farming practices continue.  That's why I've been looking into methods of erosion prevention.  Fortunately we're looking at about 30 members.  30 people could be sustained of of 2 acres of dense destructive farming.  But now I know better.

What I propose is 8 acres of garden. And an acre of green houses.  As far as I know there's nothing wrong with green houses so that much can remain the same.  As for the garden it would be a mix of vegetable garden and orchard.  The actual garden space would only account for a 12.5% of the space. There would be small strips of garden in between trees and native plants.  Further more we would alternate which half of the garden we would plant in each year and let the other half fallow.  Also we could add in retaining walls to prevent erosion.  Finally, we shouldn't till up the garden until right before we plant it.  After harvest we'll leave the roots and stalks in the ground.

Any questions?  If the design seems confusing I can draw something up.
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when you say they can be sustained, this implies a good crop, and that none of it spoils in storage. Even farming the destructive way, i'd want to have at least 1.5 times the amount we actually need.

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Actually that is base on 1.5 times what we need.
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oh, ok, cuz that would really suck to run out of food, just cuz part of the crop was bad.

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Rotating crops (corn one year, then soybeans the next) are a popular method here to prevent soil erosion and put nutrients back.  Soybeans are an excellent source of nitrates, which are essential to healthy soil.
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nitrates like -(NO3) nitrates?

like i'm making gunpowder out of soybeans type nitrates?

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that type of crop rotation prevents soil depletion but I don't think it does anything for erosion.

Vov, good luck extracting those nitrates from the ground.
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Eco-friendly, sustainable, healthy, and subsistence farming is all fine by me. If somebody is willing to work out a cohesive system and get a plan/regiment and map going, I'd be ecstatic, lol. When it comes to this stuff, I'm a better workhorse than planner because it isn't my project or area of expertise. I'll leave garden logistics to you guys and if you want a value-judgment/opinion out of me, ask, lol.
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People, please read The Story of B, by Daniel Quinn.  He talks a lot about something called "totalitarian agriculture."  If we are going to farm, we should all read that book.

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LeReveur wrote:
Eco-friendly, sustainable, healthy, and subsistence farming is all fine by me. If somebody is willing to work out a cohesive system and get a plan/regiment and map going, I'd be ecstatic, lol.


I should see if I can get some help with specific plans from my teacher.


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