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I've been doing some computer aided drafts of how I envision the housing/underground facilities.  Here's what I came up with.




I have so more pictures I'm just having trouble uploading them now.
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I like it!  One question would be the dimensions of this thing.  Also, what are the different parts used for?  I would assume that the central area is simply a large meeting place, possibly a dining hall as well?

Are you thinking, for the sides of the H, multi-levels or one big open area?  What'll be in there?  Personal rooms on one or both sides, storage areas, bathrooms, etc...

Speaking of bathrooms....

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Yeah, I realized after I posted this I probably should have explained things better.

On the top floor of each side of the H are 5 houses (so 10 in total) each of these houses is 10 feet by 15 feet which I think is sufficient space for two people in each.
The bottom floor of sides of the H as well as the central area are just areas for whatever we need.  Class rooms, additional housing for guests, etc.

Feel free to ask any other questions about it.

I realize now though that I forgot to put an entrance to the bottom floor side rooms so I'll add those and post new picture tomorrow.
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10 x 15 is definitely not enough, especially for two people.  Maybe one person, but not two.  Do we want this to be like college dorms, or like an actual housing area?  I would guess that the best idea would be to have individual rooms that could house two people, if needed.

Also, that would remove any hassle about roommates and all that.

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Well, it's not suppose to complete houses there wouldn't be kitchens, dining rooms, living rooms.  Basically with all of the commons area I figured the rooms would only need to be big enough for beds, closets, and a bathtub.  My bedroom is 12x8 and I think I could live comfortably in there with another person.
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12x8?  Really?  That seems small.  Even college dorms (where I'm going, at least) are at or over 10x15.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are some people who would prefer a single room (myself included).  It offers an aspect of privacy that I think will be essential to living in a community environment.  

Also, I think that community showers, divided by sexes of course, would be a better way to go, along with one or two individual showers for people who aren't comfortable with group showers.  That frees up space in the rooms.  Which should, by the way, have a sink.

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Well, technically every one can have their own 10X15 foot room now that I think about it, provided we don't need the bottom floor side rooms.  And if people pair up (which I suspect some people will) then that'll free up some of the bottom floor side rooms.

With what you said about the sinks and showers you're running on the assumption we'll have running water.  I'm not sure how we'd do that.
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I don't have anything to draw with or scan with, but I can type, so here goes.

First off, we might want to keep the housing areas in a singular location. 10x15 would be bigger than any room I've had in my life, so I have no objections to that. We could make 10-15 bedroom sized rooms, that way if each person wants their own room, they can have it, and we can also house guests, students, or other people. Unused rooms can also be converted into studies, storage, or whatever we need.

Since we're thinking about berming our houses, these could be the aboveground but covered buildings. The facility is something else entirely. Would it be feasible to have it multistory so that we could have the massive, atrium-lit common area on top and rooms designed for specific purposes underneath? Also, I am understanding the blue glass in the center of the room to be the atrium for light correctly, yes? If so, it looks amazing and the design is brilliant, but we're going to want to look into supports. Possibly triangle beams?

In regards to kitchen, we could have a large central kitchen.

By the way, it isn't hard to get gas and water and power connected to a building or property in the middle of a rural community: the infrastructure is already there.
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About the multi story complex.  It might be possible but I don't know.  It depends on where the water table is and I suspect it's pretty high.  With what you said about getting power and water connected your forgetting one thing, money.
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Not necessarily.  We could, eventually, dig our own wells (which actually might be the eventual goal).  It'd take a lot, not just moneywise, but it would be better than running on a water company.

As for power, weren't we thinking of generating our own?

All of these ideas have a large startup cost, but they are fairly minimal to maintain, and will eventually be cheaper than paying monthly services.



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