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Animal Husbandry part 2

What are we to raise?
Chickens
25%
 25%  [ 2 ]
Cows
25%
 25%  [ 2 ]
Goats
12%
 12%  [ 1 ]
Sheep
25%
 25%  [ 2 ]
Alpaca
12%
 12%  [ 1 ]
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glorfon
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So which animals do we want to raise? For the record I left pigs off because they only produce meat and shit!
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what the crap is an alpaca?

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Oh please!  No contest: cows and alpacas!

Chickens are nasty, with the only redeeming quality being eggs.
Goats...eh.  Cheese.  Maybe?  That's about it.
Sheep are good only for their wool, which we would probably only use during winter months.

Meanwhile:
Cows give us milk, butter, cream, etc etc etc. As well as, if we choose, meat that is (IMO) better than Chicken or sheep.
Alpaca give us (hypoallergenic) fleece and, if we don't mind breaking a law or two, meat.  Also, an average of 10 alpaca per acre = sell-able clothing, etc.

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alpaca

A sheep's wool could be used for making sellable clothing too.
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True, but people tend to value alpaca wool over sheep wool.

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Isn't cashmere made from alpaca? I would *kill* to have my hands on that to work with....

We do realize that if we do fabrics, we're going to need a loom, a few spinning wheels, dye vats, dyes (not a problem if we grow fruits and amaranth, etc.), some weaving shuttles, etc.? Though I have to say, I am intrigued about making a functional foot-pedal operated 100 color thread loom....
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Hells yes!

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Cashmere comes from the belly of the cashmere goat I believe.
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Zeerahks wrote:
Oh please!  No contest: cows and alpacas!

Chickens are nasty, with the only redeeming quality being eggs.
Goats...eh.  Cheese.  Maybe?  That's about it.
Sheep are good only for their wool, which we would probably only use during winter months.

Meanwhile:
Cows give us milk, butter, cream, etc etc etc. As well as, if we choose, meat that is (IMO) better than Chicken or sheep.
Alpaca give us (hypoallergenic) fleece and, if we don't mind breaking a law or two, meat.  Also, an average of 10 alpaca per acre = sell-able clothing, etc.



I raised chickens for 8 years, and there is nothing "nasty" about them.  They are very sweet creatures that do wonders for insect control, and their feces make great fertilizer.  They are attentive and will sound an alert if predators are nearby.  They also have the potential to live 12 years or so and take up little space.  Hell, you can free-range them and have a simple shed to put them in the nighttime.

I can't see why we would have cows, unless they would be eaten (to which I am opposed).  They eat more, may need expensive vet attention if injured or birthing, and also (if breeding) dealing with bulls and sick calves.  

Alpacas are unfamiliar to me, so I don't have too much of an opinion about them.  But if you want to use any animal for wool or fiber, you better know how to handle and shear them.  It can be very dangerous for the handler and animal.
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In that case, Christie (because your sn is too long!):

I'd be almost good for cashmere goats, lol. Alpaca wool is supposed to be superior to sheep wool, so we might want to go for alpacas.

Also, if we're hoping to be able to sustain 45 people and are capping ourselves at 20 people, then we should be able to keep cows pretty easily.

Also, chickens are only really nasty if they aren't handled properly or often enough. That goes for any animal, really.

However, if we do have animals, we are going to want to have a vet of some sort available.

We're also going to want to have somebody experienced enough in handling and caring for them as a member that can teach us as well as take care of animals.


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